NO refunds

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    An issue has arisen on the western front. Last year, if you had a permit before the cables went up you were given a refund of your $1.50 service charge. I did. I got many permits to give out at my talks. When the cables didn’t go up until June 16 last year, I ws credited on my VISA card. 

     Thanks to a blog reader I became aware of the fact that is telling folks there are no refunds … even if the cables were not up for your date. I called them myself. The vendor said they were not told anything about this. I informed Yosemite Wilderness Management of the disconnect. I just got word back that in 2011, there are NO REFUNDS for any reason. People who paid the $1.50 service fee just donated their funds. The $1.50 is a cost of processing the order and is not revenue. So I’m out a hunk of green. Hmmm, next year I won’t jump on being one of the first ones up. Late June is a lot safer.


Unrelated thought worth quoting: Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indomitable will.”  – Mahatma Gandhi

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9 Responses to “NO refunds”

  1. andy Says:

    Nice, very nice

  2. ScottS Says:

    For me, it’s “only” $3. But if you consider they sold, let’s say, 30 days worth of unusable permits, at 300 permits per day, that’s $13,500. I’d frankly rather see that money go to the park than to

  3. Doug Says:

    I don’t want a refund… I want to hike!
    Will the Ranger let me climb the cables when they are “down”? I know all about the danger, etc. I have a permit, gear, ability, and desire. I just need information, not advice.

    • mrhalfdome Says:

      There is NO ranger there when the poles and boards are not installed…Go for it – if you have a death wish. They are in the Wilderness – assess the risk and act accordingly.

      See my ACCIDENTS page on the website first.


      • Roberto Hernandez Says:

        When cables are down like last week, the protective division does not keep a post at the steps, though, right? They were not there last Monday. So, the cables can be installed using just part of a day, not the 2 full days they sometimes do?

      • mrhalfdome Says:

        The ranger is there only when the calbes are UP and installed inthe pipes. It can take 2 days depending ..but they will hump to get it done in one. June 22 afternoon is the goal….but look at the size of the project!!!

    • Roberto Hernandez Says:

      There actually usually is at least one ranger this time of year. The ranger is not posted at the base of subdome, though. They hike up to the base of the cables, give people information, and take a count of how many people are going up subdome and halfdome. Climbing the bare cables is a piece of cake if you are built like Spiderman. Take your time, and rest on the ledges. Wear sticky gloves and hiking shoes. Stay well hydrated. One guy was creaking out coming down last week, as be had no water, and got dehydrated. He had a major charlie horse in each leg. Check out a product called Clif Shot Blok gels. Orange flavor has caffeine. You can hold one in your cheek 10-20 minutes to help keep you hydrated, and deliver electrolytes and caffeine.

      • mrhalfdome Says:

        Roberto – The Ranger and usually an intern are indeed sitting at the steps at the base of Sub Dome. If you’ve seen one near the cables they were involved in the survey/count. The Social Science Group does that. The Protection Division manages the permits – they can ask for your permits when you are going down sub dome also.

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