Permit info for today

Half Dome – Yosemite Musing 

     Folks, I dug around some more today and have new info to share. I’ve been in touch with the Project Mgr for the Half Dome Cables Permit program at Yosemite. I relayed your and my concerns with the way it rolled out. What I found out will be incorporated into the site and the cables FAQs.  HD is my passion and I want people to enjoy it as I do. The park has many issues for the new incoming Superintendent and the jammed cables is one that needed emergency fixing. When the cables are clogged it makes evacuation really challenging when bad weather creeps in or craft from the planet Zardoz land.
     The confirmation notice you get in email is your permit. Hikers should print a copy of the
confirmation notice for each member of their group. For example, if a person obtained a 3 -ticket permit, then they should print out 3 copies of their confirmation notice. Each copy of that confirmation notice acts as a separate permit. It is up to the original purchaser to assure that only the proper number of copies are made and handed out.  Rangers enforcing permit use compliance will have a list of the names and confirmation numbers of each person who received a permit on the website – along with how many permits they purchased. The rangers will confirm that these match up as they contact people along the trail. It will make it easier for everyone if each hiker has their own copy of the confirmation notice.  If Joe Smith purchases 3 permits and the rangers encounter 4 different people  with copies of Joe Smith’s permit (identified by name and confirmation number) then the ranger can turn that 4th person around and prohibit them from ascending the cables. So if you want to give one of your copies to a total stranger, they will be able to go up. There is NO bar code involved, just the hard copies. The rangers will have the means to verify and police the system (top secret). There will be additional rangers in the Half Dome area to assist with safety issues and permit compliance this summer. will be amending their web site and the confirmation notice to include these instructions. If you have already obtained a permit, they are considering sending out an email
to clarify all this.  But he above is gospel.
Unrelated thought worth quoting: “Then it seems to me the Sierra should be called, not the Nevada, or Snowy Range, but the Range of Light.” – John Muir 1890

*Mr. Half Dome – Rick Deutsch –


8 Responses to “Permit info for today”

  1. Karend Says:

    Thanks for all this great information. This makes sense or it would be too easy to foil the system.

    My party may well have the capacity to climb on Monday 6/7 (no tickets needed!), but we would still be very appreciative if anyone can help us with 3 or 4 “tour tickets” for 6/6/10. Thank you for all your help. I wish I had been a little more on the ball Monday am :{

  2. John Lauer Says:

    This makes issuing our own permits easy. However, it seems to make fraud inevitable, and I would think it hurts transferability of these permits. How would anyone getting a permit second-hand be absolutely able to TRUST that more or too many of that permit number were not printed? It all comes down to individual responsibility and integrity, I guess. Good thing these are not $50 a shot permits! I guess if 800 HD permit carriers summit on a Summer Saturday, Houston will realize there is a problem.

  3. andy Says:

    What a mess, we have reduced our hard working rangers to ticket takers and permit police. They are being asked to police a system that has been cobbled together in a hurry to protect us from “crowding”.
    I sure hope it works, at this point it sure doesn’t look good.

  4. John Lauer Says:

    If park visitors follow the permit rules, it WILL reduce crowding to a large degree. I believe changes in the cable route itself are also merited. At the very least, add a THIRD LANE of poles and cable, and use high quality hardware – poles that do not easily pull out or have their tops pop off, etc. I think it`s positive that there will have to be a stronger ranger presence in the subdome area. “Ticket takers” will be able to multitask. You can BET most permits will actually get inspected, and upon inspection, will get entered into the “TOP SECRET” electronic system. So, when the 5TH “man” tries to “climb” on the permit for four, that 4 have already been coded on, everyone will know.

  5. mrhalfdome Says:

    As the old Latin phrase said: “Caveat emptor.” Google it if you are too young to have heard that. The world of ticket scalping is fraught with fake tickets. Since you “cannot” sell or auction the Half Dome tickets, no one will legally gain from handing out extra tickets. Since the tickets are free, I see nothing wrong with recouping your $1.50 service fee. I can’t imagine anyone has that much free time and mean spirit to hand out “fake” permits. Remember, their name will be on them leading to a forensic analysis, videocam replay (look up at the trees), DNA matching, trial in the World Court at the Hague followed by a public hanging in the courtyard of the NPS Washington, DC headquarters. Next case?
    Let’s remember these dark days and yall better participate in the formal Environmental Assessment and planning for what will happen in 2012. Don’t let me down – be there or shut up!

  6. John Lauer Says:

    Hurry for a healthy, delightful, enchanting environment. Let`s remember the inspiring words of our beloved President: “It isn’t pollution that’s harming the environment. It’s the
    impurities in our air and water that are doing it.” – George W. Bush.

  7. andy Says:

    We have a representative government so I elect you! 🙂
    I’m not going to be able to attend any future planning meetings but I still might complain a little…
    Thanks for all your information.

  8. John Lauer Says:

    I just saw a story about our ticket tours process get posted on the LATimes website. Here is a brief excerpt: In the first 12 minutes after permits went on sale at 7 a.m. Monday, Gediman said, concessionaires sold 901 on the Web and 13 by phone. By 7:24 a.m. that day, all Saturdays were sold out and total sales were nearing 1,097. By 8:24 a.m., 16 of the 19 potential hiking dates were sold out. By Tuesday afternoon, only those 69 permits on Memorial Day Monday remained. A sales report shows that 94% of the bookings came through the Web and just 6% over the phone. Here is the link to the full story:

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